Kamal Panesar: Quick Hits: Kings down Devils, Roy out, is Therrien in?

If I was a habs fan id prob want a more stable minded marc crawford. As a non habs fan. I think therian is a great choice

I might be reaching myself here, but Therrien couldn't get it done while coaching Crosby and Malkin (eventual Cup winners without Therrien). How is he going to get results out of the motley crew that is Montreal?

Unless Bergevin signs Parise or acquires Nash the habs have no superstars. Grigorenko/Forsberg won't be ready to come in and dominate.

Anyways what is important for Montreal to do is to fail this year so they can draft Popeye Jones' kid. He will be a dominant force on the blueline that can change the makeup of this team for years.

edit: time to go fishing peace

it doesn't matter who coaches the team...

the team needs some elite all-world talent (and no Price/Subban are not elite all-world talent, they are the Habs arguably best players, but that does not make them elite nor all-world) and a winning culture.

I believe that the Habs organization is more comfortable as a profit machine then what goes on in the rafters, and they use that history to make more money than try to get back the Habs from the 70s....

and by the way, keeping the "french" as a staple requirement for all of your off ice positions, it cuts the field of prospects in 1/2 to a 3rd. As they should be hiring the best, simple as that... if they speak french, its a bonus and that is it.

it doesn't matter who coaches the team...

the team needs some elite all-world talent (and no Price/Subban are not elite all-world talent, they are the Habs arguably best players, but that does not make them elite nor all-world) and a winning culture.

I believe that the Habs organization is more comfortable as a profit machine then what goes on in the rafters, and they use that history to make more money than try to get back the Habs from the 70s....

and by the way, keeping the "french" as a staple requirement for all of your off ice positions, it cuts the field of prospects in 1/2 to a 3rd. As they should be hiring the best, simple as that... if they speak french, its a bonus and that is it.
- BooBoo997

Everything you said here is correct. But it is a drum that we have all beat on the habs blogs

Isnt it weird how Clement Jodoin's name never comes up? He's the farm team's coach after all.

There's also this guy, Jon Cooper, who's had an unbelievable season with the Norfolk Admirals and was named coach of the year in the AHL.

Then there's still Carbonneau to be considered...

I'd rather see any of the above as head coach than Michel Therrien.

EDIT: Jon Cooper really sounds like a name out of a Marvel comics - He's our man.

Everything you said here is correct. But it is a drum that we have all beat on the habs blogs
- blarneylad

I like beating drums 'till they bleed.

Kamal Panesar: Quick Hits: Kings down Devils, Roy out, is Therrien in?
- Kamal Panesar

After all the positive steps, Therrien would be a retarded step backwards

He's not a bad coach but he's a good coach for 2 years and I had hoped for more stability than that.

Imagine how much worse it will be once QC gets a team back and we have even less options???

Everything you said here is correct. But it is a drum that we have all beat on the habs blogs
- blarneylad

So who do Habs fans want more from the discussions here, Murray, Grig, Forsberg or Gally. It is literally up in the air as to who will be available at 5 for the Leafs.

So who do Habs fans want more from the discussions here, Murray, Grig, Forsberg or Gally. It is literally up in the air as to who will be available at 5 for the Leafs.
- wendel13

A lot of guys on the forums are asking for Gally but i'm personally a fan of Forsberg.

A lot of guys on the forums are asking for Gally but i'm personally a fan of Forsberg.
- PRICEless

I thought the last 2 months before Gally's stock magically rose, people wanted Grigorenko as the perfect big C that Montreal lacks? Weird how these things change. I personally think all 3 will be good players. They all have their own appeal.

I thought the last 2 months before Gally's stock magically rose, people wanted Grigorenko as the perfect big C that Montreal lacks? Weird how these things change. I personally think all 3 will be good players. They all have their own appeal.
- wendel13

The reason i'd rather see them pick Forsberg than Grigs or Gally is a simple matter of depth, we already have too many NHL-level centers (agreed none of them's an all-star) while we lack talented wingers to play on a line with Plekanec. This has been a problem all season long and i believe Forsberg, the most NHL-ready pick of this draft after Yakupov, MIGHT be able to make the jump next season and play on a line with Pleks.

The reason i'd rather see them pick Forsberg than Grigs or Gally is a simple matter of depth, we already have too many NHL-level centers (agreed none of them's an all-star) while we lack talented wingers to play on a line with Plekanec. This has been a problem all season long and i believe Forsberg, the most NHL-ready pick of this draft after Yakupov, MIGHT be able to make the jump next season and play on a line with Pleks.
- PRICEless

True, the Leafs would probably want to come out of this draft with a C (preferably Galchenyuk) but I think he will go higher so I think the debate it whether or not you take Grigs at 5 or trade down to take a guy like Faksa at 7 and pick up a pick

I thought the last 2 months before Gally's stock magically rose, people wanted Grigorenko as the perfect big C that Montreal lacks? Weird how these things change. I personally think all 3 will be good players. They all have their own appeal.
- wendel13

Problem is with work ethic. After A. Kostitsyn, I'm sure Timmins is even more gun shy about taking anyone with risk attached. The team prefers the Plekanecs and Giontas. Those who aren't the best but work their asses off night in and night out over those who could be superstars but might be second liners.

Agree or disagree, we almost certainly will pass on Grigorenko.

Also, Timmins has spent a ton of time with Forsberg's family so I'd put my money there.

True, the Leafs would probably want to come out of this draft with a C (preferably Galchenyuk) but I think he will go higher so I think the debate it whether or not you take Grigs at 5 or trade down to take a guy like Faksa at 7 and pick up a pick
- wendel13

EDM - Murray
CBJ - Yakupov
MTL - Forsberg
NYI - Galchenyuk
TOR - Grigorenko

EDM - Murray
CBJ - Yakupov
MTL - Forsberg
NYI - Galchenyuk
TOR - Grigorenko
- muffin_man

I feel the Leafs will take a pass on Grigorenko for some reason. I haven't seen him play enough to say what the right thing to do is but I have this feeling its Galchenyuk and then Faksa.

I feel the Leafs will take a pass on Grigorenko for some reason. I haven't seen him play enough to say what the right thing to do is but I have this feeling its Galchenyuk and then Faksa.
- wendel13

There might be "questions" about his work ethic but Grigorenko's talent is undeniable, Burke and his team would be mad to let him slip by at #5.

There might be "questions" about his work ethic but Grigorenko's talent is undeniable, Burke and his team would be mad to let him slip by at #5.
- PRICEless

Thats why I was quite pleased when you guys beat us at the end of the year. I see this as a top 5 heavy draft with some kids with high potential scattered throughout the rest of the first. (The wildcards for me are Dumba, Rielly, Faksa, Gaunce, Ceci, Trouba, Reinhart). Any one of those guys could become better than the top 5 players but its a bit of a gamble.

We've seen the Therrien Takes MTL movie.....it had a crappy ending.

How do they sell this from a PR perspective?

We've seen the Therrien Takes MTL movie.....it had a crappy ending.

How do they sell this from a PR perspective?
- Crash21

I wish I could photoshop you a picture of Therrien pouting made into a giant poster for the side of the Bell Centre that reads "Y'est un francophone en tabarnak"

Thats why I was quite pleased when you guys beat us at the end of the year. I see this as a top 5 heavy draft with some kids with high potential scattered throughout the rest of the first. (The wildcards for me are Dumba, Rielly, Faksa, Gaunce, Ceci, Trouba, Reinhart). Any one of those guys could become better than the top 5 players but its a bit of a gamble.
- wendel13

I actually agree with this. I'd be happier picking at 5 for some reason because it seems like everyone outside of Murray and Yakupov have so many question marks. Grigorenko fits all the organizational needs from the past 20 years (though it'd be nice if he were big AND physical) but yet, he's not the clear cut choice.

I actually agree with this. I'd be happier picking at 5 for some reason because it seems like everyone outside of Murray and Yakupov have so many question marks. Grigorenko fits all the organizational needs from the past 20 years (though it'd be nice if he were big AND physical) but yet, he's not the clear cut choice.
- muffin_man

Problem is; you have to move someone if you pick Grigs and that someone has to be either Desharnais or Plekanec. While i'd rather keep Plekanec is faced with this choice, dont think Desharnais has reached his ceiling yet and so i'd rather not trade either of them at all for now. Wait a year, maybe two to see if DD can still improve.

Price to Edm for Nail
Luongo to Mtl for 5 lbs of Schwartz's smoke meat.

I actually agree with this. I'd be happier picking at 5 for some reason because it seems like everyone outside of Murray and Yakupov have so many question marks. Grigorenko fits all the organizational needs from the past 20 years (though it'd be nice if he were big AND physical) but yet, he's not the clear cut choice.
- muffin_man

Nah, the perfect pick for Montreal is Gally or Forsberg. Be happy you are picking third. Both of those guys IMO need a bit of seasoning and thus you can continue the rebuild. I really think Galchenyuk has all the right skills mixed with a killer work ethic, attitude and is already media ready. This is the kind of kid that will learn to speak French within two years of being there. He needs a healthy season in junior though first. Forsberg is a great kid too, he just needs a year in the top division of the SEL instead of tier 2 which he played last year.